One of Di Meola’s biggest projects is, of course, the guitar trio he shared with John McLaughlin and Paco de Lucía and their thrilling 1981 record, Friday Night in San Francisco, which elevated the acoustic guitar ensemble to the level of high art. Di Meola shares the behind-the-scenes stories of that tour and the 2022 archival release from the next night’s concert, Saturday Night in San Francisco. He calls the ensemble’s dynamic a “real healthy competition” and explains, “I knew I was up against two guys who were relentless in their delivery of phenomenal ideas. When they finished a solo, it was like, ’Oh my god, what am I gonna come up with.”
No chat with Di Meola, who famously opened up his kitchen in the post-lockdown part of the pandemic, would be complete without a survey of Southern Italian food. Why is sfogliatelle the maestro’s favorite pastry, and where does he get his? If he’s on tour and there’s nowhere to eat but an Olive Garden, what’s his order? And much, much more.
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Soulive, Lettuce, Tedeschi Trucks, and most recently, Stanton Moore and Branford Marsalis—that's a short list of some of the acts Eric Krasno plays and has played with throughout his career. From one funk guitarist to another, Cory sits down with Eric to talk what it means to play the right amount of notes when jamming, what it takes for Eric to absorb and learn so many different genres, and the impact the jam band community has on its musicians. Thanks for listening to this season of Wong Notes, and be sure to catch the next!
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Jason Isbell's Advice to Songwriters
Cory: Do you have any insight to budding songwriters that are trying to find that thing about their voice as a writer?
Jason: Yes, definitely. Just stop looking for it, immediately. Stop looking for your voice as a writer. I was thinking about that this morning. I saw something I read this morning, somebody talking about finding their voice as a writer, and you're looking for the wrong thing. When Amanda and I got married, we went around to a lot of couples, and we still do this, but a lot of couples that have been together for a long time that we knew and we asked them, "What's the secret?" And they had different answers. With a lot of people, it was sense of humor, or just don't give up on each other, or stick by the decision that you made, no matter how hard things get.
But John Prine said, "You have to remain vulnerable." And of course, John Prine is going to give the best answer to just about anything. That's what he did, but he had a very recognizable voice as a songwriter, and it was the fact that he was open emotionally and he realized that he had something worth saying, and so he just let himself talk.
And I think that's the trick. And it is a little bit ethereal. It's hard to pin down, but just don't run from the things that you might consider mistakes. If you think that, "This doesn't sound like any song that I've heard before, so it must not be right," second guess that instinct and think, "Maybe it doesn't sound like anybody else because it's mine." And if you do that over and over and you remain open and don't judge yourself, that's the thing. There's the Neil Young line where he says, "People don't want to hear a song you like, they want to hear a song you wrote."
And that's huge for me because it's like, don't judge the work while you're doing it. Save that for later. Later on when you're in the booth, you can judge whether it's any good or not or, after it's mastered, you can figure out if you want to put it out, but give yourself a whole lot of leeway and a whole lot of time to do what you think might be a mistake because, just like playing the wrong note, it's not that, it's the one you play right after it. And I think that's the thing. That's it. Just let yourself screw up, and then keep moving, and then eventually you'll have a chance to go back and fix it if it's wrong, but more often than not, you'll find out that's not wrong, that's just me.
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Nuno Bettencourt on Pedals
I have a love-hate relationship with pedals. That's why I don't use anything, because I've always felt they get in the way of what you're trying to say if you use them wrong, especially with choruses and things like that. When Edward switched from being straight in your face, and then started splitting things left and right and chorusing and doing that, which was amazing and creative and beautiful, I lost a lot of him. I heard less of him and I heard more of what it was going through as the voice.
And I really prefer any guitar player, whether it's Brian May or Jimmy Page especially, anybody, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Meaning, sometimes it's not the greatest tone in the world and sometimes it's not the prettiest to listen to, but there's an emotion there, and I think pedals and what you do processing-wise gets in the way. The notes are there, but they get in the way of expression and emotion because there's a physicality that you have in your fingers that, to me, it's like I always try to find that straight shot from here to there, to that speaker, to that microphone, to the record.
And it's funny because recently, let me drop a name, Steve Vai. Recently, when I was at Steve Vai's house, he wanted to hear the album before it came out. So I drove to his house. He has an amazing studio, and he's like, "Let's play it from top to bottom." He's like, "We're not going to stop. I want to listen to this damn tone." And he stopped after every song, he's like, "All right, now wait a second." I'm like, "Steve, we're supposed to listen to this like an album." He goes, "Yeah, yeah, but the guitar's right there. How did you get it to be right there?" I just said, "Because there's nothing there. There's no magic, no hocus-pocus.”
It's always been a 57 and a 421, and I don't do anything to equalize, and I let it be on the outside of the center of the speaker, outside the cone, and I let it go. And yeah, I'll use a little delay. Delay is different for me or so revere because it enhances what you've done already. What I need is the type of processing that becomes the body of what you're doing, it becomes part of that note, if you know what I mean. That's like more of... And I always feel like, as a guitar player, the real you tends to never never come out when you do chorusing or flanging or something. Unless you want it for an effect. It's like an effect or even to make it pretty. Sometimes we do chorus with chorusing stuff or you want it to... By the way, you want it to have that sound and that just a big body of just beauty, then you're doing it right.
I don't think there's a right or wrong, don't get me wrong. I'm not being a pedal snob or anything. But for me, I love my heroes and the guitar players I heard when there's not much in the way of their hands, and they find the right amp to just be that extra voice for them to interpret what they're doing with their hands. And that's always been my goal. And amps have changed every album, but I think wherever your headspace is at, that becomes the tone.
Nuno Bettencourt on Why He Doesn't Use Pedals | Wong Notes Podcast
